😲At Our BIG AGE, We Thought We Understood How to Find Our Purpose. We were WRONG!

What if everything we’ve been taught about finding your purpose is wrong? 🤯 In this powerful episode of The SisterGirl Sessions, hosts Niecee and Voni dive into discovering your life’s purpose and sharing personal experiences and insight.

🚀 Here’s what we’re diving into:
✨ How purpose is fluid, not fixed (02:08)
✨ The small daily actions that shape your greater purpose (04:07)
✨ The role of spirituality and personal growth (07:24)
✨ How family, influence, and community shape our paths (15:48)
✨ Embracing challenges, risks, and career shifts (28:42)
✨ Why service to others is key to deeper fulfillment (36:19)

Whether you’re feeling lost, stuck, or simply curious about aligning with your greater purpose, this episode will give you the insights, inspiration, and real-life examples of how to navigate your journey.

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Transcript

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Hi, welcome to The SisterGirl Sessions. We are back for another session today. My name is Niecee, of course, and this is Voni. Hi, Voni. We have created this podcast, The SisterGirl Sessions as a space for us to come together and talk about our life lessons, learned, different experiences we had. Topics we'd like to discuss as far as personal growth and development and just a general space for us to come together and chat it up and share some insights with you all or some things that are on our mind. We're really happy that you're here today. And today we are going to be talking about, finding our sense of purpose or how do we find our sense of purpose? And so with that, I am going to go ahead and turn it over to Voni. She always do me like this, but, about, a sense of purpose, I think, what is it that you find, in your life that fulfills you and gives you joy and peace to some extent, but then also, what is it that you were born or brought here on this earth to serve or to, I don't even know how to describe it, but to say what, why were you born or why are you here? Exactly. And, I, and I feel like when you are living that purpose in which we'll talk about, I'm sure. you will kind of resonate with the activities or what you're doing and it will feel natural and feel really good to your spirit. Yes. And then you will kind of be fulfilled a little bit. So I do believe people are born or brought here to have a certain influence or certain thing to do. And impact on the world, that is what I agree. I agree. I do like that. And I do feel as though your purposes can shift. It's fluid. Yes. So over time you might've had one purpose, say like being a mom or something like that. And then the children are grown and on their own. And then you kind of evolve into another sense of purpose. I think that can happen as well. So when I think about sense of purpose, I always think about. Like something bigger than myself. Okay. It's not about me. It's like you said, like about what am I bringing to the world in a positive way? Yes. Not in a negative way, but in a positive way. What makes me feel light and airy when I'm doing that? It doesn't feel like work or effort or I just flow naturally with it. And it brings me a sense of excitement. I feel like I'm, when I'm in that state, I feel like I'm tapping into my sense of purpose. A lot of times I'll get the goose bumps. Or I have these moments where it'll be like you in it, you doing it. And you it's so natural. Cause I could be at work or I guess, I can be doing a presentation or having a conversation with certain people and stuff just flow through you. Yes. And you don't even know. I was like, Oh, where'd I get that from? Who said that? That was me. And I was like, okay, all right. I mean, it just feels natural. You know, to your earlier point that, but you'd like, Okay. And you don't even understand, but it, to me, it's within that spirit within you to kind of say, you are on track. This is what you should be doing. This is what you should be saying in that moment. And if you let it flow, it just feels so natural. That your, other conscious sits there and says, Was that you? Yes. We're like, wow, that was profound. I know you did good. I'm so like you did. I agree. I agree. And so when I think about purpose in that aspect, I feel as though there are many micro purposes that, kind of expands into a bigger purpose overall. Um, So to expand on it, I'm speaking of like you were just talking about, like, even when you're speaking and you know, it comes up from your spirit and that person must've needed to hear that or that audience or wherever you are speaking or taking an action, like you could be in a grocery store and handing somebody or helping somebody get something from the shelf. To me, like, All of those little micro things and are contributing to your greater purpose to impact people on the day to day, like, I'll sometimes get in a state where I feel like I need to do something really grand or things like that, but you always tell me, Niecee, look around you. You impact people every day, so it's like, well, you're right in the feedback. That I get from their experience of me or different things that we talk about, it might not happen in that moment, but the feedback that I get is really impactful about like what the example where you feel like you were doing something else or you wasn't recognizing it when I had to say that to you. Because I think when you say that mm-hmm We were, what were we talking about at the moment where I said, Verniece, you don't realize you already do that because I know, but I don't wanna speak for you. Yes, yes. Or would you like me to prompt you at all circumstances? Because there's so many I know. So different circumstances. Um, let's just say, one time I was talking to two of my friends. We were on a conference call when we're talking on the phone and one of my friends was having a health scare and she was really frightened and really upset. She had just got some bad news and things like that that she had to go through some more medical situation and, and she was really upset and afraid and things like that. And I was just at that time and, and we were kind of taking turns and talking, me and my other friend, we're talking and lifting her up, you know, Being there for, but I had said something, I can't even tell you exactly what I said. That's alright. That's okay. That day. Yeah. But at that time I spoke and I, was, and I was, okay. Siri, we need you to calm down. Calm down. She calmed down. Calm down. Alright, so where was I? Okay. You know, you were chalking her, lifting her up and I was lifting her up and I was speaking to her and I just. spoke from my spirit. Like I said, I can't say exactly what I said. And I remember that her and my other friend kind of paused My other friend's like, uh, no, my friend, she was like, see, that's why I knew I needed to talk to her. I know. That's my Zen friend. And she always has, like things to say, so it was like, okay, this, I think this is one of those times where, so those were the times where I didn't recognize I got immediate feedback at that time where it was like, okay, so that's being on my purpose, where, yeah. What were you thinking about? I was thinking about, because as you have developed spiritually. You've kind of brought a lot of people along on the journey. You've educated and trained us about our inner spiritual selves, right? I believe that about you, right? You taught me, family, siblings, kids, you know, your friends, circles, you live it. You, it's who I'm That is who you are. Yes. And I remember a time where you kept saying, I'm multifaceted though. You are, you're you. As many facets to my personality, Yes you do. Uh, but I kept remembering, you kept saying Voni, I wanna be a public speaker and I wanna get my message out. Yes. And say, and not that you still won't fulfill that. Yes. But what I got a sense from you in that moment was that you didn't recognize. That you were doing it already, already through other people and other things. That's a really great example. Yeah. Yes. So that's what resonated for me. I was like, but she don't even see it. You don't see it, Verniece. You do it right now. You do it. And, and in a, in a calm way, because when I first. started on my journey and I was so excited about it. Like when I made the shift from living from the outside in to tuning within myself and then going with, you know, looking out at the world and seeing how I was experiencing it, but being tuned in to what's going on on the inside. When I first started on this spiritual journey, it was like, a lot of people was like, Now she, I did too for a minute. It took me a little bit. What do you I couldn't, I had to make her start. I not understand. Didn't I was Could you explain that again to me? I, I and my kids were like, oh Lord, hear go mama with this woo woo stuff again. You know? And I, and I, I couldn't help it because I was becoming, and I could only stand in it and live it. Mm-hmm So I was talking about it mm-hmm A lot. Mm-hmm And then a lot of times, it wasn't even till like a year or two later. Some of the things that I said, I guess resonated with the person and then they'll be like, wow. I think I need to investigate this a little bit more and they start on their own journey because to me, even if I spoke on a grand stage or have an individual conversation, there's nothing I could do. I could just speak to you about what I'm experiencing and then you can pick it up and take your own journey, you know, like those people you talk to. Yes. But when I hear that, I think that is part of your purpose. of you being that voice or that messenger to kind of help others grow, um, in that, in that format, to learn about it, to how to not look externally. You said that just a minute ago, that was one of the big teachings I took away. From you now still haven't managed the meditation. She needs to commit. I can't make my brain don't shut off that way. But I do know I, I try, I try, I do. I've been doing more. I don't say nothing about it, but I've been doing it more. I got my little calm nap and I, uh, I really do practice. It is a practice trying to be a pro baseball player on your first try. I'm not there. Y'all I'm still a real rookie there. Yes. But, it does teach, it has taught me, you have taught me what I say, what I think is influencing my experience. So that's a major part of one of my takeaways that, and then as I would, you was like, you were just saying about how you would. You share things with different people in the moment. I didn't get it. Yes. See what I mean? Yes, and then I would go try You know, I was like, okay, he said this i'm i'ma try it, you know, and then so then you go If it resonated with me, I wanted it to resonate because I wanted it to be true. I wanted to be positive I wanted to have a good experience So I started trying to think that way and then it worked. And then, well, you know me once it worked, I'm like, I'm good. I'm good. Okay. Okay. That works. And then it just started evolving and being a part of who you are. Yeah. So that, I mean, but I say that is a major thing of a purpose for you as I, as I think about. How you energy and how you, but I think you're doing it for a lot of different people, but it's still part of those micro levels, but it's not really micro because as it reaches out and it keeps going and that's what I was thinking about that it's kind of could be micro, but they all collaborate to become something bigger than me. I agree because I'm not really doing anything. I'm just sharing my experience and who I am or my perspective and how I view things because I can't even say it's like a solid belief because it's all fluid. I agree. Yeah, I think that's a major part of your purpose, at least in. I shouldn't state that even for you necessarily. I do feel like it is. I feel like that's your purpose because you're so natural and it just flows through you so easily. I have to be in the moment because that's the thing is that a lot of times I can't just like. Turn it on demand. You know, I have to be in the flow state for it to flow for me. Okay, but I agree. I agree. I feel as though I am here to be somewhat of a light in the world. I consider myself a light worker. Beautiful light. But if somebody wanted to know what a light worker means, see, cause I, I would ask you cause I'm, I'm, I get it, but if someone listening to us wanted to understand what a light worker means, what is the, what is kind of, I think it means different things to different people, but for me and the way I experienced it is, I have been in many environments where There's been darkness. Okay. Or people going through strife and despair and don't have a lot to look forward to. You know, just barely trying to make it. So if you are willing to step into the darkness and people's faces when they're feeling dark and be a light and shine something, some hope. Some, different perspective kind of got them to focus in on what are you grateful for? Yes. You know, what are you happy about waking up for today? Did you have a pillow? Do you love your pillow? Little things. Right. Yes. I feel you. Yeah. and trying to guide people into, taking things on as a different perspective. That's been a light. In the dark. Oh, I love it. It's beautiful. Yeah. I just want to make sure other people understood that now. I'm sure a lot of other people might have a different idea of what like, and my example and what the way I experienced it, because I come across different people that are in different phases of their lives and they sometimes don't hear me when I speak it. Okay, but somehow they remember they left an impression. Yes, and they'll end up coming back. And so sometimes also I do targeted energy work where I reach out to people during meditations or, you know, even while I'm, Standing, you know, so, and I think that has a impact. I've seen some profound things that happen to people, just different practices, how I am with the binaural beats and things like that. How you focus your mind and thoughts and energy, all of that. Yes. Awesome. It's energetic. Yes, but so defining it and and I'm, I'm still trying to further define that, but I do feel like that is part of my purpose. One of my purposes and, being a mom and being family oriented and being a positive role model in our family is another. Purpose that I feel is because we have a really close knit family. I feel like that's a purpose that you and I share. Yeah, yeah, I do. I do. I do have that. I, also think for myself, I always call myself an influencer. Yes, I do. I, you very much are. What was the thing? I said on the last one that I, it was another perspective of influencer. You did. Okay. Inspiration. I don't know what we said. Okay, but keep going. Well, because in my, I noticed that I'm opinionated. I can't say I can be opinionated, occasionally, but I try to do it in a way. To be sensitive to people's feelings. I'm conscious of what I say. so that if I'm trying to, especially like for a child, my, our kids, and I say our kids, I have a daughter and a granddaughter, but I got a whole host of nieces, nephews, and these are my kids, in the family. but I feel like you said, to be the example to them, to help them learn from different experiences. To recognize things that we experience in life that, through, you know, trials, tribulations, and experiences we had, things we learned or didn't learn, even in our growing up, and that we want to be different for them, sharing some of those things. So when we have, we used to have one. Kids are a lot younger. The closest generation were a lot younger. They are all adults. Now we have girls night all the time. And we really focused and tried to influence and mom was still with us then. And we would influence a lot of what they were, experiencing and educating them. And, from anything from finance to boys relationships, just being themselves and not having to, feel judged and, and being in their own beauty, no matter their skin colors, any of those things. Yes. We fed into them, right? Yes. And break it down. Like if some person was going through something, challenging them, gathering our energy, our positive energy together. To motivate them to feel better, be better. Yes. Yes. It was so profound. And work through it. Yes. Yeah. And it's helpful. It has, we need to do another girl's night. We, the kids have called on it, well, young adults I should say now, but yeah, they, young adults have called. We do, but now we gotta do Airbnb type stuff. I know, girl, the house ain't big. It's not big enough. It's, and they spend a night and all that. So it's like a big deal. Yes. But when I think about my purpose, I do think it's of service. Mm-hmm. And I think it's related to, it's still people oriented. Mm-hmm And just in the last weekend, and it's going to be something new cause or in the last week I was at a meeting with my team and I have a team in my workspace. And I have a team in North Carolina. And. we were going around talking about our why now, why your why, you know, you ever heard of Simon Sinek Start With Y, right. And so I'm, I love that. I think you cannot explain do much without understanding why somebody is doing it or what you're doing. You got to understand your why. So one of the things I had the team go around and do is, give a name that a little bit about their background and their why, like they were in healthcare. What excites them about their work. And to me, those two things are very similar to your purpose. So when I got through the whole thing, I was one of the, I was one of the last people to go. And what I learned from that whole experience and listening to them, I like to center myself around people, with the same sense of service and purpose. I thrive in environments where I can go help motivate, go help create better experiences for patients or for the team. And it will help lift them up so they can go help the patients, but it's still all in that sense of service. And one of the things that I took away. So what did you tell them your why was? My why was, one of them was, is that I just realized, and I told him that, I said, I just realized that the thing that brought me to healthcare, it was kind of by fate that I ended up where I ended up. I will say that. Cause I came from health IT. Yes. Then I went like straight into medical practice, but it's mobile, but into a medical practice that was totally different. But this level of influence and help that I could provide is much more visible to me. Yes. And I, and that's the part I really love. And then I real, the reason I love it so much is that I like people. I like to center myself around people who are doing that type of work. So whether you're a doctor, whether you're a nurse, whether you are, administrator, whether you, no matter what your role is in our system, you could be of the, the receptionist, whatever, but we're all with a similar purpose trying to help patients or help the geriatric team members or whatever. So it, I realized that I love centering myself around people with a like mindset, but my other why was, around. how we in healthcare is so complex that I feel like what we do in the type of healthcare we do and work for my company should be the future. So there's a very much an opinion, not a statement, but I feel like coming out of the brick and mortars and all of that, I want to see us, you got to come into the community, into the home, you got to go to the community centers and all of those places. where people really are themselves because you show up at the doctor's office. You, so I, it was all around how you need to come back to the family, to the home and go influence a person's health that way. Yeah. So, and that's where I, I find my, Your why? My why? My motivation at least to go help, support and my view. Now look at me. You tell me. Of viewing you overall. Mm-hmm I do feel like you in your, and it is a blessing to be able to be in a workspace where you are aligned with your purpose. And I say that to say I do feel like you're living your purpose. Mm-hmm Through your work, Uhhuh, And a lot of people can say. Oh, you're in corporate America or whatever, and you're not living on your property because you in the in the machine but you influence change You influence perspectives And I can see the joy there and the excitement Sometimes listening to you at work, because we work at home, I hear you sometimes listening to me so excited to be like, she's gonna jump out of her chair in a minute. Yeah, but to see you living your purpose, I feel like your work is aligned with your purpose. And to, early in your career kind of shift into the healthcare environment and environment to influence there. Right. I didn't know that that was the direction. Yeah, so I feel like you are a big change maker in that space, especially with the companies that you've worked for the help. To innovate the industry, setting standards and models of care and different things like that. So I'm like, man, what a blessing it is. You know, so I feel like that's a big part of it. And then also, related to family and, being a light. and a good role model. Mm-hmm And, a lot of the people in the family look to you and say, man, if she could do it, that gives me inspiration. Mm-hmm And then the way you present yourself, not just like, oh, I'm doing this, so you, you should try to do that. No. It's like you need whole beingness. Yeah. I wanna know. You wanna know. Yes. I teach your whole being. Yes. Mm-hmm And, and being who you are. Authentically you and, being a good person that shows up and is there for people and we'll talk to people about the things that they're going through and just being that light like you were talking about with our, with our girls night with me, one on one, sometimes the different ones might stop by, they need a chat or call you up. I need to talk, so being that it's been really good. Great to see, but I think those two are two of your biggest big purpose, but your work is a really, really big one for you. It is. And I didn't always feel you. It fulfills you. You don't see that. Cause I tried to come out of it. Yeah. And when you said, I can't wait to go to work. I'm like, I did this morning. I got some work and I got some time and I got to go do this and do that and but I do get excited about it was like, but I got this list and I'm, and I got stuff I need to go accomplish. But yes, but being able to, one of the things that I admire is to be able to look at things high level. Understand the trickle down effect of things. That's a gift. Everybody can't do that. Yeah. And I could work my way through it, but just to automatically look in this know all the right questions to answer all the different pieces that you can apply that you have a gift of applying that to different scenarios. Like when you were on your business adventure and we were doing the events, I tell you, when we got to that event, And we were not missing a paperclip, a safety pin, a piece of tape. Everything was accounted for. We had everything we needed. We didn't have to set it up. We didn't have the people. But our town is tricky like that. It is. You know, some other things happened in the city. I had a strategy for that too, because I was trying to get the people who usually Do the events in my event. Yeah, and that didn't even that didn't work out. Yeah, but I wasn't because of it wasn't because of you, you said the only thing you didn't like was the stage. But yes, yeah, we did a good job. And that was your thought process of being able to look at all the moving parts and think about the scenario. So or look at it from a from a patron or visitors perspective of what they will experience. Yes. And that is your end result. No matter what, whether it's a patient or person coming to your event, right? That's the end result. If we do not impact them. Exactly. Gotta get it down to the limit. So what about somebody, like, say they're in their 20s or in their teens and they're like, what's my purpose? How do I discover my sense of purpose and what, what are some, what are some things that you would suggest a person would do? I think you have to try a lot of different things. I think you have, to your point, when we first kicked off. You, you really won't know it till you get in it. You gotta try a few different things. when I started out, the reason I ended up where I was even exposed to any level of healthcare is because I was a executive assistant or administrative assistant. And that I got what from my mom, right? So she inspired me to go. I said, Oh, mom got a good job. I'm gonna learn that. Oh, I could do that. Then computers came out. Oh, that I was up there training the class. I adapted to computers very easily. And so, learned how to type on the old typewriter. And then we could roll up and To do the page. You did your whiteout. Correction, you know, and my mom was the kind of person that you could not poke, peck. You had to type. We both type. The way we type I think is a dying art. I know. Yeah. But I got that from mom. So when I, when I went off into the world, but I think our parents influenced our attitudes about work and how we present ourselves though. I do believe that. That's true. In our day to day, we don't half do anything. You be the best person. You know, you don't do anything half way. You either show up, do it and do it right. Or you don't show up at all. But as I went through, those different stages, you know, I felt like I wanted more, right? I could see different things and I didn't have the influence I wanted. Right. So this is just Voni. Right. I didn't have the influence. I would watch my bosses or different people that I would work with. I'd emulate some and there were some that you say, I'm not going to be like you. And you know, you've had those people, but I think you have to try a lot of different things to find it. And I think if you kind of, to your point, if you kind of have the right attitude or you're, You go seek out new things. So like, I danced, I did different things in my career or different at work. I would go get on different committees or different things to go see what made me tick. I was a, I remember at one time I wanted to be a teacher. Yeah. I wanted to be a teacher. So I went from being an executive assistant The C suite executive to then decide, Oh, now I want to go train. I thought I wanted to do that. And I did it for about 18 months till he got on my nerves. And then I didn't want to do that no more. Then I came back. but what I did learn about myself, I do have an aptitude for teaching. Me too. I do. And I think I do a pretty good job of being able to train and teach people. So it gave me some experiences that I'm able to take on with me somewhere else. So as you're, you're traveling and going through your different things, don't just shut the door. Cause some of it, you always get to take it with you. Take it with you. Yes. So, but I'm moving towards your highest excitement. Yes. What, what, what makes you like, Oh my goodness. Oh, that sounds really fun. I'm just speaking to the people listening, moving towards your highest excitement that usually to me, kind of, put you on the path. To your purpose, even if what the activity that you're doing is not solidly your purpose. Yeah. It will kind of put you on a part of trajectory. It'll part I love that. Yes. To get you there because yes, it's going to be something you need to take with you Yes. To fulfill. Yes. Yes. I love that. I love it. And I also feel like never discount your challenges, unpleasant experiences, hardships, or whatever you went through in life. I've been there. I've had many experiences, from the alcoholism to, we had extreme poverty, raising kids as a single mother, trying to navigate all these things, having to fight, physically fight, become people that you really were, naturally were, but to, survive in the environment that you were in. This is what you had to do to survive, but all of those things, all of those things culminated into me and that still travels with me, I don't like to nurture that part of me, but you know, it still travels with me, you know, come out every now and again, so I can do some things. The light has dimmed down a little bit, and she done, she done went way back there, uh oh, my daughter called her baby, went back to the 1980s, Niecee. Like, yup, yup, that's true. So, but being able to, yes, embrace those things and not necessarily always, because there's a lesson in there somewhere, and there's growth opportunities, because when you come out of it, there's growth opportunities. And you look back on it, you're not the same person that you were when you entered it or when you were in the midst of it. And when you transitioned and moved out of it, then you came out a different person than you went in. That to me is with any kind of, something that most would perceive as a negative experience. You know, I've even been in accidents, like auto accidents that I feel like, Were for my greater good. I know that sounds wow. Yeah, that's scary That sounds a little off. Yeah it put me on a path to open the door for different. Okay trajectories Different, um experience I might have needed a new car. Okay It all depends on how you look at it. Okay What I was going to say is that sometimes when you have to do stuff. And mama used to say this to us all the time. Do it afraid, because if you sit around because i'm more of a practical person I would say Verniece is more of the adventurous type. I am Niecee does the adventure. She'll try it She's trying things and i'm a more kind of about a book and I got that from mama, but at the same time She would also encourage and support us to say, do it afraid. And sometimes when you need to go work towards your purpose, you got to kind of try, you got to do a few things. I'm not telling you to stick with it. No matter, you know, you got to just kind of observe. Use discernment, know when something's feeling good and when it's not, and when you need to make a shift, but be okay with that shift, but don't be afraid to try things just because you're afraid. Like it's not, it's not etched out in stone and your exact pathway there is not lined out for you. I agree. You can't, you can't let that, And then I also say that when you find yourself in situations where, you know, it's not working out for you to not be afraid of moving past that, taking a different path and extracting yourself from the situation. Even if it means letting go of some people that you are. That you are within a circle of, like if you're normally, I mean, this could be old friends, family, people that you just, you love them, but you gotta love them from afar because they're not in the path that you know, You need in your purpose and where you need your spirit to be and where, you know, you will flourish that some of them individuals may or may not be, or that circumstance may not be. Yes. So you have to make sure you do and, Yes, being able to move past that and understanding that sometimes those things are necessary and that's one of the harder things. That's something that I find challenging in my life, especially people from the old, like that I've always known. for years and years and years. And when I know the energy isn't right, and when the energy is not right, I feel like I'm being held back. I'm not flowing. And that's what lets me know this is not good. I have to move past this because I've worked with people, I have a mix. Philosophy about it. Okay. Cause I have, you know, when you, especially at work, you don't get to pick always who you work with. Right. And there's some people in your hemisphere, your range that, don't necessarily vibe with you, right. And there are some people that you can separate yourself from and you only mess with As needed basis that knows people. But when it comes to like your managers, your bosses and people who are highly influential in your life, and that could be family, friends, et cetera. Those are the ones that are very difficult to kind of break from. Yes. And though, and because sometimes you get stuck in security cause it's familiar. Yes. And so, and then, but then it still doesn't necessarily mean you stand there, you ask yourself, why am I not flourishing? Why are you not? Why am I not flourishing? And you know, is it my mindset or is it the circle I'm around? You know, and sometimes it's because you've stuck yourself with people that you need to move on. You need to move on from there for a reason, but it's not even for your job. I'm saying that for your job, for your friends, your family, family. Yeah. That you just kind of say, Ooh, you're not working for me. You're not no more. Now, at one time, we was cool, and now I was on a different mindset, thought process. I'm at a different phase in my life, depending on where you at. Yes. You have to make those decisions. Crucial. Decision. It's crucial. For your growth and development. It is. It really is. And then being on purpose, is where I believe when you're on purpose, you will see maybe not grand gestures of prosperity but you will start to see things flourish for yourself. You will see things advance. It might be small, little things, but the universe will bring it in. Yes, it will bring it through. Yes, it will flow to you. But when you're not, Yes, you will start to feel and see a different things become harder and all kinds of things continue to happen when I'm in a situation and I've experienced that before where things were happening all around me that were not positive. Experiences kept happening, kept happening. Oh, now this I'm dealing with this now. And now today. Yes. Yes. I know I'm moving outside of my purpose. It's time for me to shift with the cheese. Yes. You have to move with the cheese. I got burned from not moving with the cheese. Professionally and personally. You need to move when it, when the universe or the world is showing you that this is not a good fit for you. Things will start getting taken away from you. You have all these negative experiences. You need to move. It's time. It's time to move. You are purpose. That is an indicator that you are our purpose. Yes. That's yeah. And when it deal with purpose, I had a little note here talking about, Often it relates to, service and community, but as we've been talking about this, I'm like, there's different definitions of Service and community and a community can be day to day interactions. Like I've talked about before, you know, my interactions with the community, even going to the store, can't even go to the store with her. I'm like, girl, you act like, you know, everybody, you know, interactions and you never know. That person might have been on the brink of something terrible. Like I don't even want to live anymore. And. I can't say this has happened, but you never know. And my interaction with them might've been the light they needed to say, Hey, you know, life isn't everybody in the world is terrible. Maybe I could do this. I feel suddenly rejuvenated because I often get told that people feel different and that they interact with you. Because of my energy and so it might have brought my energy level, brought my vibrations up or something. So where they might feel empowered to take a little step or do something. So you do have that ability and yours is in a community of work. Like you, you deal with so much. So many different people and even people you might not be working with even currently like you've worked with before, or, different ties you have or connections and being able to advise or collaborate and different things like that. So it looks different, like to say, you got to go out to the community center. No, you're not saying that. Community takes on different looks. Yes, that's what I was thinking about as it relates to that. So what I'm trying to get across in this thought is that don't put it in a box. It would be great not to put it in a box and, and leave it kind of wide open. But if you follow your happiness, most of the time you're not really going to go wrong. And because I hate it when I get off track and I'm not in my happy space, I get really upset about it because when I'm happy, I could feel it. flow. Yes. And when I'm, when I'm agitated and anxiety and all those, lower vibration feelings, you're not in the flow. But one of the things you say, as you say that, I'm just listening to you. Yes. And it's kind of, I won't call it religious, but it's kind of goes back to what we were trained in is growing up in Bible studies and different things about, about how we treat our fellow man. When I think of being a service, it's to me about my experiences or my interactions and what am I doing to make the world a better place and to help my fellow man. Yes. And all of these things that we've been talking about. Are related to that. It's all coming back to that and then it's like You are my mirror. Mm hmm. Everybody is my mirror. Yes. And most of the time you are teaching me something. Yes. even, yes. Whether positive or negative. Yes. Right. You are my mirror. And you're teaching me something about myself. Mm hmm. Teaching me about you and myself. But you are my mirror. Exactly. And so, and I might choose to leave because I don't want to continue on this path, but you are teaching me something, but you are right. Yeah, it comes back to that, to me. It all comes back to that. Yeah. Love. We're supposed to love each other. Love each other. Yeah. That's the ultimate purpose. Yes. Love. Love. Mm hmm. Well, that sums it up. And I would tell you that there will be other influencers in your life at different stages. Like you said, Family, family to me was almost ingrained in us as growing up. I agree. Right. It was how we were raised. you'll have, like you just said, positive and negative influences. I had experiences as a kid that, some of my purpose and succeeding in my career and doing different things were I won't call them traumas, but incidents that happened when you were a kid, like daddy used to call me, he called me a dummy one time. Oh boy, that sent me somewhere. I had so, I was a teenager by that time, but I really had an attitude about it. And I turned around, I was a risk. I told him I ain't no dummy. And boy, everybody in the house kind of spread out like, whoa, she about to get her tail handed to her. Right. luckily I didn't I didn't but luckily I didn't yes Oh, I think mama kind of guarded me a little bit from that but It touched me, but he was shocked. And I think, and I think he realized that he had said something to me that hurt. But at the same time he wanted to be right. And I decided I was going to prove him wrong. It gave me motivation in life to go pursue. I can succeed. I can be, and I, and I've told my nieces and different people on different occasions. I won't wanna say I enjoy it, but I prove people wrong. Uh, you might have a perception about me, but I'm a, you know, and you can, I can show you better than I tell. I can tell you, I can show you better than I could tell you and anything, anybody in this there, I am not any better than anyone else. Mm-hmm But ain't nobody better than me. That was another saying, mama, daddy gave, we, we talked about that, I think on our intro video, on our intro, right? And so. Anything anybody can have. I can have it. I can move, I can live, I can do, I can be anything. Yes, if it ain't there right now, I can work towards it. But as long as I'm being fulfilled and doing the right things. With life and people, and I'm not causing harm and I'm enjoying it to your other point. Yes. And I'm enjoying what I'm doing. And, then I feel like I'm on purpose, but, it's kind of, I was, what I was getting at is, is there going to be influences on your life. Yes, through as you try to go figure out your purpose, you're going to have like you said, poverty, different things help influence you, but you take them, you learn from em, you carry them with you forward to go figure out what you can learn from those things, because you learned a spirit of survival and ingenuity and different things in growing up poor. There are certain things that come out of growing up that way, right? You learn how to figure it out, right? If you become, you, you can figure some things out if you can be innovative. So each, circumstance, you know, even, defending yourself. You learn how to go talk your way out of something or where you just got to go do what you got to go do physically deal with. You know what I mean? You learn something from each of those things. So, those just carry you forward. Survival skills, learning when somebody's, shootin you a bunch of bull. Yo, my God. Ain't saying something, but ain't saying nothing. And you know, you get that spirit of discernment. The spirit of I learned that in the hood, real good. You learn the spirit of discernment, you got to learn it. And then just know when you got to say, uh uh. Yes. That's a really good point. That's a really good point. I think we're about to have to wrap up. We can get on our tangents. We appreciate y'all sitting around and listening to us. Hopefully you gather some value from this. So we've talked about a lot in a couple of things. I know that resonate is really with me is that our purpose, is can be multifaceted. It can. It could change. It could shift. We can't put it in a box. We, like to your point, you have to try different things to really see where, where that could take you. And if it feels good to you, most of the time it'll, it'll align, put you on trajectory and get you on that path. Recognizing the feedback that you get from the world, people around you and things like that can sometimes it can be positive and it can make it depends on the feedback. But you shouldn't let it's always to me about my experience. Yes. Yes. Because those people can influence you just like daddy saying it, but it can influence you and what you do and say in purpose. But I really, to your point earlier about going within, go pay attention to how you feel. It is about going within, but like, uh, with, like, say for instance, feedback sometimes that you get from your team or your leadership and the value that you bring and things like that, that kind of sometimes like, okay, I think I'm on the right track. Oh, the validation. It's not that I'm depending on them to give me my answers, but. the feedback that you're receiving from your environment kind of sometimes can help you. It can help. It can help. It can harm you too. It can harm you. You can get the big head. Don't get the big head or just don't let somebody else tell you like who you are or whether or not that is your purpose because sometimes people's own fears. Can go try to influence what your your purpose might be. I think about mama you like mom Me and mama kind of traditional Corporate america and mama's a worrier. She was a worrier who liked You should go get you a job, go to school, get you a job, you know, do those things. So she doesn't understand people who are more dreamer focused or going to go pursue their focus. So sometimes you can do that. Yes. And it will influence you, but I'm saying it can't be the only voice. Yes. You gotta, you gotta discern it. I keep saying that word, but you gotta take it within and kind of understand, you gotta be able to take that internal sometimes to know which voices you can listen to. Yes. Cause you got to feel it. And if you get that feeling like, okay, maybe they right and, the universe is showing me cause I'm not. experiencing something or, you know, something that may be okay, but sometimes that discernment is just rooted in someone else's fear. That's true. That's true. But definitely how you're feeling on the inside and how you're, how you're feeling, right? Yes. I agree. I agree. Maybe I was on the wrong track, but I was coming from a good place. It's no right or wrong. It is no right or wrong. But you get what I was trying to say there. Yes, and like we said, trying different things, being open and honest with yourself, going within and reflecting, reflection, self reflection. I think everybody should be still sometimes, but not any time soon. outside activity. I could do that. I could just sit there and,, be. Yeah. Not do. I don't do that so well. It's good for you. You receive messages. You do know, even if you're not closing your eyes and meditate, that is a form of meditation. Even if you just, sitting there silently because we live in a world that has a lot of outside stimulus. We do with phones and everything. You have something at your fingertips at all time. You got your Netflix, you got your, you know, you got your TV, you got your phones, you got your games, you got the little computers, you got something all the time. So things pulling on to you from the outside, just taking a moment for yourself and being still is always a good thing to me. You'll get a lot of great ideas. I'm sure I missed some things. I'm not great with a recap. No, I think, as we talked about what I think we have some perceptions of what we think our purpose is. And sometimes I think I started out kind of helping or we identified together that sometimes you might have really grand ideas about what your purpose is. Then you don't even recognize that you're in it and you're doing it. Yes. Yes. See, that was one to me. That's, that we took away. That's huge. You already doing it, but you see it. That was me. I like And that we have to, we're gonna have different experiences and different stages in life. Mm-hmm that we're gonna have different influencers on that experience throughout growing up, our family, our interactions with others. but try a lot of different things to go identify and, figure out what your purpose may be that as you have forward momentum and I call them positive experiences and opportunities of how you feel within as you're going through it, stick with it. That's kind of giving you that indicator that you're on the right track. Yes. That's the feedback of the outside world that I was trying to get to, but yes. Take it and know that you're on track And you're still going to have other experiences you don't have lessons and learns and it's not going to be perfect all the time It's not a straight line. It's not a line. No, and I feel like i'm still learning me I am always still learning and i'm sure my purpose isn't fulfilled. I'm still here I'm still able to go do and change and be a new me whenever I need to make that change, but it's an evolution. It really is the evolution of us as human beings. I love that. Well said, Sissy. Well, we thank you all for, hanging out with us. We went a little long today, but it was a great session. If you found any value in this, you enjoyed the session. Share it with your friends, smash that like button and click that button to subscribe. If you're listening on a podcast, go ahead and add us to one of your favorites, tune in, listen to some of the other episodes and we will sign off for now and we will catch you on the next SisterGirl Sessions. All right. Peace.